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Evening Delights and Deep Dives: Exploring Governance, Spiritual Journeys, and Cultural Adventures with Alvaro
Ever wondered how a simple evening filled with vegetarian Indian food and music-making could lead to profound discussions on government responsibility and cultural adventures? Join me, Jorge, and my good friend Alvaro as we reconnect and explore a myriad of topics, from the latest twist in Alvaro's court case to my mission of offering free tips for passing the Australian English test. Alongside these updates, we reflect on the growing wave of podcasting and flirt with the idea of setting up our very own studio.
This episode isn't just about catching up—it's an eye-opening journey that traverses the lack of diverse representation in Australian politics, the stringent measures during COVID-19 lockdowns, and the fascinating rituals of indigenous communities in Bolivia. Immerse yourself in our personal stories of travel mishaps, spiritual awakenings with ayahuasca, and the cultural tapestry of places like Goa. Whether you're curious about public engagement in governance or seeking travel tips and spiritual insights, this episode promises a roller-coaster of engaging and enlightening conversations.
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Hey, welcome back. This is me again with another episode tonight or today or this afternoon. This is Jorge in my new podcast series, george Podcasts. Again, welcome back to everyone. I'm here today with a friend. He's busy at the moment, but he will be back again soon. Back again soon.
Speaker 2:It's been a while and I've been away from the microphones and the machines and but I feel like this is the right time to come back and and enjoy it. We've got a special guest tonight. It's Alvaro. I think I had him the other day in another episode where we talked about I don't remember what we talked about. I don't remember what we talked about, but yeah, we had a conversation about, I think, brisbane. I put it somewhere, but I think we did it in Spanish or in English. I forgot, because he speaks two languages, which is great. Today we've met. It's been a while and we have the opportunity to come here, have some dinner at Matt Pleasant and we have special food. We have some vegetarian Indian meals and we have fun actually, and he was using my loop pedal to make some music While I was doing a set using the DJ controller and then I made a set one hour and 20 minutes, I think it is, and I just posted in SoundCloud.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, you guys will be able to to see it again. It's the same. My SoundCloud account is George Podcast. There's a picture of me, of myself, in the account. I deleted two episodes, then two sets and then now there's one live right now because I started again and I'm going to keep doing this. I don't want to talk about my personal life, but I've been away because I had some challenges that I have to overcome to those challenges and then come back again with with more podcasts.
Speaker 2:Now this podcast is becoming a trend. I see it a lot of the Instagrams and Facebooks short videos. There's people talking using these platforms to make short reels, and the other day one of my friends, he came to me and said hey, george, we're going to do this and can you just invite me to my place and you can do it? Right, you can just go and we put some lights. You can come to my place and then start it again and we can rent it. Actually, he told me he wanted to rent it, to rent like a place in the, in the, in the city, in the, in the downtown here in melbourne, and he wanted to record some podcast and make it like a business, and then I can make a studio and then bring people over the studio and then and I said that's a great idea when I saw it I didn't like it actually, right. So, um, I got some. It was really busy. I'm gonna open the microphone to alvaro, or Alvaro. Alvaro, hey, you want to say hello here?
Speaker 4:Hello here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's your name? Alvaro Al, what's your preferred name?
Speaker 4:Well, my Instagram tag's Green Smoothie, ah well, that's different. Yeah, fuck, what do you call it, your tag? I?
Speaker 2:mean your name?
Speaker 4:What do you call it?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so it's not Alvaro, it's not Al, so it's green smoothie.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's Alvaro.
Speaker 2:Alvaro.
Speaker 4:Alvaro.
Speaker 2:I call him Alvaro.
Speaker 4:Alvaro, alvaro, alvaro.
Speaker 2:Alvaro, you were in the toilet so you were doing Albarro. I was doing Albarro. Right man, how have you been? How have you been? How's everything? How's Brisbane? That's the last episode. Don't do that. That's very hard still.
Speaker 4:Ah, hierro viejo, eh, Hierro yeah, how you been.
Speaker 2:Are you being great?
Speaker 4:Yeah, fantastic, yeah, yeah, really good.
Speaker 2:Doing that all well thing I had a really good court case the other day that got adjourned, so that was good. Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:How's everything We've been having a lot of uh that'll give my lawyers a month to get their papers in order oh yeah, I know my papers I don't think you want to talk about that.
Speaker 2:So if if that's, if that's a successful, like let's say, um case, then we made a podcast about that case, because you will be having good information about it.
Speaker 4:When I win the case, yeah, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. It will be very good for… it will be a follow-up episode. Yeah, yeah, and that will be good for the listeners to have this information, because you never know right.
Speaker 4:They want to keep tuning in to next month. We find out what happens.
Speaker 2:Part two but look, this is, this is very like when you have the challenge and when you have a challenge and then you come, you overcome to those challenges, then you got information, very important information for the people to to hear it, and then to apply it? I don't know like.
Speaker 2:It's why, for instance, I was doing um and I was planning to do that um like an english test for for migration in australia. So and I passed that test and I'm planning to to release all this information because I the test has a lot of tricks and tips, so I plan to release this information for free, for free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to charge anyone for this, but at least I get. Maybe I don't know if I get an audience here, I don't know how many people, but if someone is looking and then they go to podcast and say like, oh look, this guy is talking about this test which I can get information. People is charging this um to, to the people. You know it's charging money for this and I'm gonna say for free same as you.
Speaker 2:You're gonna put ads on your podcast, maybe yeah, so it's not really for free well, um, right now it's for free right now.
Speaker 4:Right now, yeah, but maybe the future. You haven't made that episode with the hints and tips yet.
Speaker 2:No, no, I haven't. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4:I'm planning, but when you do it it will be for free. I'm planning. This is a plan.
Speaker 2:I haven't done anything Like, because I told you, I just get this machine and I'm getting out of the case and put it on the table and then we start recording. Yeah, you're going to make that that's going to be on the podcast. I think that bass is not the best one.
Speaker 2:This one is quite yeah, we're just scratching the microphone bass for those who can't see. This one is different. So even if if I scratch it, you're not able, to no, that's not a no, but if I, maybe this yeah, this one is recorded, see the frequencies here. Okay, so I think we we did an, an episode last time about Brisbane, yeah, but we, we didn't talk about the organic farms.
Speaker 4:No, I wasn't there yet. I hadn't got there yet. No, no, no, no, no. I was still in Brisbane at that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we talk about crocodiles? No, that was Linden. I made an episode with Linden Yep About crocodiles and Western Australia.
Speaker 4:I listened to a bit of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, australia, listen to a bit of that. Yeah, but he didn't talk about the western australia.
Speaker 4:He had some secret places over there he saw, he told me oh, I got some secret places but, a lot, whoa, I think he walks everywhere barefoot. The trees talk to him oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what about brisbane? Is it nice over there?
Speaker 4:well, I left bris, I moved onto the Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the weather here is a bit crazy, yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't really like the cold, the wind is like a strong wind, strong wind, cold wind, inhale, inhale. Welcome to Melbourne, yeah, but they say the wind brings freedom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were driving.
Speaker 4:Towards my place, until I crashed.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no no, no, you were crossing the Westgate Bridge.
Speaker 4:Crossed the Westgate. It wasn't that windy up there, though.
Speaker 2:And then the 60, you have to drive 60 kilometers 60.
Speaker 4:How many lanes is it? Six lanes.
Speaker 2:No six. Yeah, probably six. Yeah, six, Five or six lanes in one direction.
Speaker 1:You've got to go 60.
Speaker 4:Too slow, yeah Too slow but you get a good. You get to appreciate the view of the city. I guess it's alright.
Speaker 2:So well, you came back from Brisbane. How was it? The Gold Coast, Is it nice?
Speaker 4:It's like different from Melbourne, yeah, Well yeah, well, I went back After our last podcast. I went back up to Brisbane and I hadn't really arranged anywhere to live, so I just moved into a park. I put a tent up in the park and lived there for about a month and a half. Musgrave Park there was like a big sort of tent city. There must have been over 100 people, nearly a couple of hundred people with their tents, and quite a few Aboriginal camps there as well. So I thought I'd join in. They were protesting, I think, the Greek festival, because the.
Speaker 4:Greek people were taking over the park and the. Aboriginal people were saying well, this is our park, how come you're throwing us out for the Greek festival?
Speaker 2:How's the Aboriginal people like In Brisbane Well, everywhere, but in Brisbane specifically, how they interact with other, like, for instance, with you. How was that, those interactions? Did you like it? Was it nice? There was a lot of aggression more aggression than.
Speaker 4:I've experienced anywhere else.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 4:In the world. I think, yeah, a lot of aggression in Brisbane, but I think a lot of people were using methamphetamines where I was camping. Oh, really, yeah, I think so, yeah, even the old people, young people, that's sort of just a way of life.
Speaker 2:That's sort of just a way of life, is it methamphetamine?
Speaker 4:easy to find. Everyone's offering everybody. Everyone's saying, oh, do you want some of this, do you want some of that? Wow, I got offered quite a bit. I got offered a pipe as well.
Speaker 2:Ready to go. I was like man.
Speaker 4:I'm all good thanks. I'll just roll up a joint.
Speaker 2:But how can these people live using that kind of systems and how can they live their life? Well, the park.
Speaker 4:Musgrave Park is a traditional sacred area that's always never been ceded and always sort of remained as Aboriginal land. So Aboriginal people have always been legally allowed to camp, squat, you know, make their fires hang out in that park. So I guess whenever someone feels like they don't want to be anywhere, they just go there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just going to put some music, thank you, okay. Yeah, I just this is a song of Brazilian musician. I really like that because I saw a young lady playing this track in an acoustic version. She was really hot and sexy, yeah, but that's not the point, but she was nice. And then I was listening to this track and I found the original. This is the original version of the track.
Speaker 4:Is it?
Speaker 2:Yes, I think ashe is an expression, is like a good positive energy or whatever Ashe it's very nice. Figa de Guinea. Figa de Guinea is the name of the song energy, or whatever. I share, I share. It's very nice. Yeah, figure the guinea figure. Figure the guinea is the name of, of, of the sun. Um, yeah, just leave it here for anyone, if, if, if, you like, and you can find it, google it, whatever, it's very, very nice african girl yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, a lot of African influences. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about this. Aboriginal people camps in Brisbane in the sacred land. So how they manage this land how they did you is the police or the government getting inside the land?
Speaker 4:On the park sometimes.
Speaker 2:Like micromanaging the land.
Speaker 4:Not much. No, housing would come a lot. Housing would often come down and try and get people to sign on to public housing, but they would say, no, we're happy here.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're not homeless.
Speaker 4:They're just choosing to camp there. Yeah, but the government try and force, they're just choosing to camp there, yeah. But the government try and force them to sign up to homeless programs to get them off the campsite.
Speaker 2:Is the offer better than staying in the camps? The offer is terrible.
Speaker 4:I mean the offer. I don't know. I didn't really get to see what housing they provide.
Speaker 2:No, I mean you didn't see it but maybe you may have heard someone saying like oh, the house is great, it's better than being in a park.
Speaker 4:I did get to see one of the houses and it was like a housing commission, like a concrete block. I did see one. We did, actually I did meet quite a lot of homeless people and people who knew the homeless people and people who had signed up and received housing, and we did go and buy some weed off one guy who was in his public housing and it was just a sort of like a concrete block. It looked like there'd been a fire in there. It'd been all burnt inside, all trashed.
Speaker 2:Because I've seen the concrete.
Speaker 4:It was nicer in the park than in the concrete block.
Speaker 2:I've seen the concrete on the concrete block. I was saying, like the public housing in Melbourne, which is you can see these blocks of units. There's everywhere, right In Footscray or even in there was one we were doing a job. There's one in Williamstown and people didn't like it because you know Williamstown is like a, like a you know wealthy neighbor, oh neighbor, sovereign, but they didn't like it to be in there. Williamstown is like a you know wealthy neighbouring suburb, but they didn't like it to be in there.
Speaker 4:There's one in Collingwood isn't there.
Speaker 2:There's one in Collingwood. There's another one in Collingwood, but no, the one in Williamstown that's near to the beach. Have you seen that one? It's the same one. It's the same blocks of units, but the people in there they didn't like it because sometimes they put people with, like, maybe social problems and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like you put all the crazy people in one big building together and see what happens. It's just a massive people disaster.
Speaker 2:Is it a good measure to you know what's your opinion about it? Is it a good measure to bring all these people and don't give them the right attention? I don't know, because they might need attention and not just to put everyone in this unit and then there you go.
Speaker 4:That's a bit sort of lazy, sort of Australian solution to it. I know they do it differently, you know, in Northern Europe and different parts of the world, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 4:But I think you can't just blame the government either we could, but it's also people's responsibility's responsibility.
Speaker 4:it's the population, isn't it? Yeah, if you don't care, population doesn't care for its, the constituents of its own population, they can't really expect their government to, which I think is a different. You know some other countries where you see the people, the citizens of that country, care for their own people, not just through government initiatives and voting for politicians who will do something, but also through social, public, social movements. I think we're lacking a little bit of that in Australia. There's little things.
Speaker 4:You know small things here and there, but you know, generally we don't have like a I can't remember. I mean we probably do, but you've seen other governments. You know they have, you know have intellectually handicapped people as ministers in the government, but we don't technically have that. You could very well say people like Albanese or Dutton do have intellectual issues, but that's not the kind I'm talking about. I know certain governments have Down syndrome people as ministers to represent that sort of demographic, but I can't really see Australia doing something like that at this point. Right, I haven't even seen a black minister In a cabinet. Really there could be one in there hiding.
Speaker 2:But I don't think I've seen. What about the prime minister? Is there any black prime minister In the story of Australia? No, not even a. How do you call this? How, how you call this, how you call this, governor, governor.
Speaker 1:Minister of Indigenous Affairs.
Speaker 2:I would say Dan Murphy.
Speaker 4:Dan Murphy. He was one of Australia's First entrepreneurs. He's like the Rockefeller Of Australia of Australia's first entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2:He's like the Rockefeller of Australia. For people who are not familiar with Australia, Dan Murphy is a franchise of liquor stores or bottle loves or those shops that sells alcohol. And then there's a guy called Dan Murphy. He's the big franchise.
Speaker 4:He's Irish. He's from Ireland. He came out here in the early 1800s. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was thinking this guy from Victoria, dan Andrews, dan Andrews, that I was just confused.
Speaker 4:He's cyborg. I think he's a real cyborg.
Speaker 2:No, I think I might confuse Dan Andrews with Dan Morpheus because during I think Am I confused Dan Andrews With Dan Morpheus Because they, during COVID, this guy Dan Andrews, he was saying Like get on the beers Get on the beers, absolutely, and there was a famous Phrase that he just made. Can you put it on the?
Speaker 4:song. It's a good song, isn't it? I can't. Was it Was that, like Psytrance or Hardcore, I can't do that. There are a lot of Dan Andrews remixes.
Speaker 2:But look, I was trying to find what's his role, dan Andrews. Premier, premier, premier. What's his role, dan Andrews? How do you call his role? Is it Prime Minister? Premier?
Speaker 4:Premier yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a Premier. So did you know if, in the history of Australia, black or Aboriginal people Been a Premier. Yeah, been a Premier in history.
Speaker 4:No, I don't think so, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:No. So that's complicated. New Zealand has quite a lot of you know Maori people.
Speaker 2:That's complicated, yeah, like how can you build a country like inclusive they call it inclusive country if you haven't elected? You know, like if people haven't elected, you know, people haven't elected Even an aboriginal people, or I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a, it's a colony, or maybe an immigrant, a Greek or A Filipino Maybe. Yeah, there's plenty, plenty of Greeks, lots of Greeks in the government. An Indian, an Indian, for instance?
Speaker 2:Greek Indians as well, yeah, yeah for sure, ah, but no, no, ah, do you mean in the government? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's good, just go and find him, find him, get on the beers.
Speaker 4:Lots of Greeks and Indians in the government.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but as premiers. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4:Oh, maybe not as premiers. You'd have to have a, you know, irish or English Sort of Descent person. I think, yeah, hold on, I'm getting the.
Speaker 2:Get on the.
Speaker 1:Dan Andrews.
Speaker 4:It's not this one. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, nice, that's what's most important. The pub that's what's most important. Beers we had a case last week. As best we can tell, the dinner party started with one case by the end of the dinner party almost everybody at the dinner party had a case of beers, beers, beers, beers.
Speaker 1:If people simply take this seriously, rapidly, get on the beers. That's your civic duty, that's what's most important, and that's what's most important and that's what must be done. Beers, beers, beers. Get on the beers. Beers, beers, beers. Get on the beers. Beers, beers, beers, beers. Get on the get on the get on the beers. Take this seriously, get on the beers.
Speaker 2:Right. So that was the famous track Get on the beers.
Speaker 4:Well, he was responsible for, you know, creating the world's harshest COVID lockdowns, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was. Did you have you been here? No, you've been in another country.
Speaker 4:I was here for a bit of it. You were overseas. Yeah, I was here for a bit. Yeah, yeah, I was here for a bit of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was here for a bit, yeah. Yeah, I thought you were overseas.
Speaker 4:I was here for just under a year of it, I think.
Speaker 2:No, I was here the whole time, you were the whole time. It was very very, very harsh, very hectic to live under these restrictions.
Speaker 4:I heard yeah.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 4:I was here for about a year of it and it was enough. I got out as soon as the first Airplane ticket became available.
Speaker 2:I think you just can't. There was, I think the hardest restriction was to they gave you the government gave you Like a 4km range To walk. That was ridiculous. Just to walk or to you know if you're going on a run so you can just run in a four kilometres range. Oh my goodness. And there was police chasing the people who left their four kilometres ring. That was horrible.
Speaker 4:Real police.
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk about yeah, they put they've made place to or the fake police, the pso.
Speaker 4:I think they're real ones for the real one. Yeah, real ones. I heard they're just giving out police uniforms to security as well during covid because there weren't enough police.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so, yeah, no one wants to work in the police right now. I think so. No one wants to work in the police right now. It's not an easy job to be a policeman. In every country, I mean in Australia, it's a hard job. I was driving today and I saw this police car where they just turn on the flashing lights and then they're stopping maybe someone who is maybe a father or a mother and saying like oh, you've been driving or whatever it's over speeding or, and I'm going to give you a ticket. And then you know that's a hard job. You know like, even if you don't agree or if that's not fair you know, and then get you these.
Speaker 2:It's a hit to the families, you know. It's just.
Speaker 4:You know being a police officer and then you know, I was just reading a book, now I can't remember exactly what it's called. I think when Cops Are Criminals or something like that, it's called.
Speaker 4:And I look at the statistics of how many cops are breaking the law and it's just that a lot of them I think a lot of them just break the law all the time because they think they can get away with it. You know sexual harassment using the police system to like search people and stalk people, men like male police officers stalking women, and a lot of cases of you know pulling over drunk women or women just over the limit and then offering them a drive home, which shouldn't be done. A lot of physical abuse amongst their own families and stuff. This is a book written by an ex-police officer as well. It's a pretty interesting read. I think it's called when Cops Are Criminals. I can't remember the name of it. Can you Google it and check? Just came out a few days ago actually.
Speaker 2:I keep putting this on For.
Speaker 4:Molly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just to have some. I know that I get penalized. I'm talking about cops and rules. I can get penalized, oh, whatever, someone can just go. Ah, you don't have the rights to put that song, but I don't give a shit, I just put it in Because I want to make my podcast. You know, if someone is listening, maybe they can you know listening, maybe they can you know. Royal, you know Todito, todito, todo con todo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah get him, get him, get on the beard.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that a cabbage over there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, A cabbage. I was going to say get a cabbage over here, yeah no no, no, no, that's it.
Speaker 2:No yeah, I just wanted to put some. I put some music, some little bit Pieces of Of Coal, yeah, just to you know, just Mix it up.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why not?
Speaker 4:You need that sampling button that goes you can record the other person and sample them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 4:Like I'll go yo and you go yo.
Speaker 2:I can do that, but let me, I got those ones Like this one, maybe A pre-recorded one, yeah, yeah, I feel deserving of this one, maybe A pre-recorded one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel deserving of this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I haven't heard this applause.
Speaker 2:Yeah, happy birthday yeah.
Speaker 4:No, but Look at the. That's a good one. That reminds me sleeping in the park, oh yeah, very peaceful. Yeah, you like it. Yeah, I liked it very good. Most of the time very peaceful and less you know local people having a party. Then it was music all night and then all day.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But then a few couple of days after that it would be quiet because they were sort of resting up again.
Speaker 2:So tell me what's the best experience for you? Um like, what do you prefer in terms of if you're traveling the country, so what would be the best um place to sleep, so in a car or in a park? It depends where you're traveling in a car or in a park it depends where you're traveling like that.
Speaker 2:Let's not think about money like money that I don't care about money, right, it's, it's your preferences, like in terms of if someone wants to come to australia and have a nice experience, you know, like a, like a really like experience where they can't, you know, just get in touch with the australian culture, so what would be the best um place to? To stay like in a car, in a van, in a trailer.
Speaker 4:I guess it all depends on your personal preference no.
Speaker 2:If, in your opinion, what would be the best?
Speaker 4:on your experience, it depends where you're travelling, because I know travelling up through the middle of Australia, up through the central desert. No, yeah, the side of the road is the best. You just lie on the side of the road.
Speaker 2:Oh, and that's it yeah.
Speaker 4:I had one blanket and I just lie on the side of the road in my blanket.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 4:And you know, look at the beautiful night sky and then you wake up early in the morning, beautiful sunrise. You open your eyes and you just see, surrounded by red earth, desert. Yeah, you know, beautiful colours in the sky. Maybe, one star left or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then the flies would come and you have to get up.
Speaker 2:Did you wear a mesh? No, I never wore a mesh.
Speaker 4:That's too annoying. Oh yeah, you just shoo them away. You get good at doing that.
Speaker 2:Did you eat someone, maybe? I ate heaps of flies, actually, it reminds me.
Speaker 4:Once in the desert there was a lizard watching me and I kind of kept putting my face closer, closer to the lizard, until it was this close and there were flies all over my face and he started eating the flies off my face. That was in the desert. And then when I went up to Darwin, out in the Kakadu National Park, out there I found another lizard. It was like a water dragon and he kind of reminded me of the desert one, but he was like a slightly different colour, and so I thought if I put my face close to him, I wonder if he'll eat the flies off my face as well. Actually, they were mosquitoes that time, because we were more up north. So I put my face close to him like that, and then he started biting the mosquitoes off my face as well.
Speaker 2:Wow, so there's some friendly lizards here in Australia, yeah now, if, if you, if I make you choose like the place you want to live for the rest of, I don't mind you in there. I don't want to say it for your life, but let's say in a show like in two years time one year, year time for a year, yeah, in Australia what would? What would that be Victoria, like I said, victoria, queensland, or northern territory, or maybe it was in Australia which state personally, yeah, personally, yeah right now there's a lot of places.
Speaker 4:I haven't been much of new south wales, I haven't been tasmania, I haven't done northern west australia, I haven't done south australia. Well then, I've passed through south aust, northern South Australia.
Speaker 2:So you should you probably choose A place that you haven't been, maybe.
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, it's hard to say Without Without having been everywhere. There could be Still be good places To find. Yeah, I'd definitely like to check out Northern Northern Rivers area, northern New South Wales. It'd be nice to check out.
Speaker 2:At some point.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, there's a good, good climate there, northern New South Wales would be nice to check out at some point. Yeah, yeah, there's a good climate there. Yeah, it's cold but not too cold, and warm but not too warm. Yeah, because.
Speaker 2:I had Lyndon the other day talking about Nimbin Nimbin is it you want to do that, nimbin?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, nimbin, is it you want to do that, nimbin? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Nimbin, nimbin. What?
Speaker 4:Nimbin, can we sample that? Yeah, this is a very interesting controller. Yeah, nimbin, mardi Gras looks like it will be a good time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, haven't made it there, but it's next on the list, I think yeah, okay, yeah, nimbin, yeah, I really want to go, but maybe when you have you planned to Come back to Brisbane, like maybe In a few months.
Speaker 4:Oh look, I've actually been thinking Of um, I really don't know. I'd really like to go Over to India and oh yeah, you told me that yeah. I don't really have any plans Until I come back from that. Yeah, I can't really have any plans until I come back from that. Yeah, I can't think that far ahead, but that's my one goal at the moment Get to India, find an ashram.
Speaker 2:Which part of India are you planning to?
Speaker 4:Study some Hindu science.
Speaker 2:Which part North West?
Speaker 4:East Goa, where is that?
Speaker 2:I think that's south.
Speaker 4:South yeah Southwest. I think that's south. South yeah Southwest. I think yeah, Quote me on that, Because India is a very complex country.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of tribes and families and languages.
Speaker 4:A lot going on. Yeah, wow, very busy place.
Speaker 2:Lots of people huh. Yeah, did you feel like there might be? Because people complain about getting intoxicated by I don't know something? The food and the water.
Speaker 4:Apparently everyone gets sick when they go. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you need to maybe get your gut.
Speaker 4:I mean you lived in latin america yeah, yeah um and I've. I mean I've also, I mean I spent 10 months yeah there, and I certainly got pretty sick in bolivia in bolivia.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, in guatemala as well, yeah what did you eat, you know, over there?
Speaker 4:I think it could have been the water on the water, yeah, yeah, did you get it from the?
Speaker 2:think it could have been the water. Oh, the water. Yeah, did you get it from the tap?
Speaker 4:It could have been something I ate as well. There's some pretty weird street foods.
Speaker 2:Did you get it from the tap Tap water I?
Speaker 4:think, yeah, I think I got too confident, overconfident, with the tap water. I might have drunk it once and I was okay. I drank it again and I was good. And drunk it again and I was good. And then I went to some little village up in the mountains somewhere and then I was like, oh hey, I'm all good, I had it again and then that was it.
Speaker 2:I was yeah, no, maybe, especially in the small villages, they don't, they don't treat the water. No, not at all. No, maybe they got it from the rain, you could boil everything yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Or rain, I don't know. Maybe the well.
Speaker 2:Oh the well, oh yeah the same well, but they go shit.
Speaker 4:Maybe next to the well, or I mean On the pier Next to the well, While I was over there, One of the families I would go and hang out with I lost. I had my wallet stolen off me While I fell over there. One of the families I would go and hang out with. I had my wallet stolen off me while I fell asleep on the bus on the way up into the mountains. So when I got there I didn't have any money, but I did meet this girl up there and you know, she took me to her mum's place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you been to Santa Cruz in Bolivia? Santa Cruz, santa Cruz.
Speaker 4:Santa Cruz.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. Which place did you go La?
Speaker 4:Paz In Bolivia.
Speaker 2:La Paz El Alto Lago.
Speaker 4:Titicaca, lago Titicaca, a few other places.
Speaker 2:I can't remember right now, yeah, but the Lago Titicaca.
Speaker 4:That pretty fucked up ayahuasca. Oh, really Ayahuasca.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 4:Chichi Castanango, or maybe that was in Guatemala, I can't remember now. It was all a bit of a blur.
Speaker 2:I didn't know. They have ayahuasca in.
Speaker 4:Bolivia. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, wow oh.
Speaker 2:How was that experience? Did you?
Speaker 4:How was that experience? It was very intense.
Speaker 2:Is it Quite?
Speaker 4:frightening. Well yeah at the time Quite shocking.
Speaker 1:You got visions. Brutal yeah, vision yeah definitely A vision.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one day vision, because I've been to the Amazon region one. And then there was they called the maestro, the master, the shaman. They called it the shaman and the guy was they were having tobacco through the nostril. So they just blow the tobacco using like a small piece of wood with a hole and then you just blow it through your. They were doing that.
Speaker 2:And then they were having mambi, which is cocaine in like a powder so they made a powder out of cocaine and they put it in the mouth and they start chewing. I don't know if you saw that in Mambé.
Speaker 4:No, they put it in a. We had coca leaves a lot, yes, but this one is a pavlo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they put it in there and then they start chewing that stuff, and then there's ash, so they just can blow this ash yeah. I remember the master was oh, is it ash?
Speaker 4:Is it with bicarb and the coca leaf? Yes, it's ash.
Speaker 2:I think it's vine ash or grape. So they just made ash from grapes leaves and they mixed it with the coca leaves.
Speaker 4:They just poured it and they just smashed it together and they mix it with the coca leaves, they just pour it and they just smash it together. Yeah it sucks all the enzymes out of the leaf with the mix of the bicarbonate and the ash, yes, and it's green.
Speaker 2:It's all green.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's good, it's nice. We should have it here. It's awesome.
Speaker 2:They say they use it for when they're working, when they're walking.
Speaker 2:It increases blood oxygen yes, yes, correct, yes yes, so they do it, but uh, they're using where which is always good sometimes they use it before they're gonna have the ayahuasca. So they were doing that and then I started. I was able to see the talk, the tokens, uh, the totems, because they were sculpting the totems and they were nice, like two meters or three meters high totems, and there were young people sculpting those stuff, and then they said that all the totems were coming from their visions.
Speaker 4:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I talked to the. What was the? The chacal? How do you call this guy? The maestro, whatever? And I said, like El chacal, El coyote.
Speaker 4:El chacal de la cabaña El chacal.
Speaker 2:No, he called it like el taita, el taita, taita, taita, yeah, taita, taita, taita, yeah, taita is the spiritual leader. They call Taita.
Speaker 2:Taita so I said am I ready to do this? And then said, no, do you have a difficult time, like mentally? If you're not ready mentally to do it, the advice is not to do it. And I said no, no, I'm not feeling alright. And they said, no, you don't do it, I don't want to do it, I'm not going to give it to you. I said that's fine, I don't do it this time, but maybe later.
Speaker 4:Maybe that was a good choice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can have a bad trip from that yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, and you just get like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's people getting very Ahead and people getting very.
Speaker 4:They can throw you a bit If you have a bad one Out of your mind.
Speaker 2:And stuff Like if you don't have this spiritual Guide, this guide, if you don't have a good one. With you, because I think they use music During the ceremonies. Yeah, yeah, they start playing some music.
Speaker 4:You really gotta trust them as well. You got to feel like they're looking after you. Yeah, I didn't feel very looked after by the one I had. I was a bit mistrustful of him. Actually, he was a bit sus.
Speaker 2:That's not good.
Speaker 4:But I was too proud to think I thought, whatever, I'll just take myself through the ceremony. That was a bit rough.
Speaker 2:What was your vision about?
Speaker 4:I don't know exactly what it was about, but it was like a bluey, green, light blue, aquamarine green, almost like a flame, but in the shape of a face. Almost like a flame, but in the shape of a face. Like a Like a spirit.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 4:Flame, blue, green face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I got this guy from Like these colours oh those two Really bright Light.
Speaker 4:Aqua and blue. The touches of green and it was just screaming Like in agony Anguishuish, anger, confusion, yeah, discomfort. And no matter where I looked, I couldn't get away. Wow, everywhere I looked, closed my eyes, opened my eyes, tried to move around, it was just there.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 4:Screaming you know in pain oh no yeah. That's something that was fun and eventually it just kind of went.
Speaker 2:after a long time it just went because I've met someone from Europe I think it was Norway or some some country in Europe in the north and the guy was he, he's, he was um or he is a virtual dj. So the guy used um like uh leaves patterns to um to be a virtual dj, you know. So just put it on those frames or those uh pictures together or visual lips yeah, the visual just the visual part, so that I went to Amazon and just to have a javasca.
Speaker 2:And then he was saying to me like I'm using this in your wasca to to help my creativity like hidden is more creativity. So during these visions he started, he had the chance to, to spend his creativity, to see more patterns of this and tropical leaves and put it together and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So at the end of the vision or the ceremony he goes to this place or study or whatever and he starts putting pictures of taking pictures or whatever he remembers from his visions, putting everything together and making a video, and then he was able to, you know, during the year, you know, during the DJ's and input. This was very and.
Speaker 2:I know, that yeah, just like we showed you his work yeah cool, absolutely yeah, he was nice. It was very, very nice, like I think he made a purpose of it's, not like oh, I'm going to, you know, I'm just gonna have this and get crazy. You know, I get like no no, you get you got this mindset, like this purpose, like I'm gonna do this for because it's it's gonna help me with my yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, if you go and do that sort of thing, everyone's looking for something I know well, most people are looking for something there. No, not many people are doing it for no reason.
Speaker 2:I think yeah, I know I don't know, so you didn't do it. No, at the end. No, I wasn't ready, you weren't ready to do it. Um, yeah, I don't know if. Uh, I don't know if. Did you know someone is that ceremony is doing here in Australia?
Speaker 4:no, with the ayahuasca, no, dmt yeah, definitely, people definitely do it up in Sunshine Coast up that way plenty of people yeah, oh, really absolutely yeah, oh, I didn't know oh yeah, a, lot, of, a lot of Colombians up there so they bring the ayahuasca from. They bring it sent over. Yeah, they cook it up Ochacaruna and everything Wow.
Speaker 2:Have you done it over there? Have you done it over there?
Speaker 4:I did it just once in Bolivia.
Speaker 2:Was it good, I know In Bolivia, but not in Australia, just in Bolivia.
Speaker 4:Not in.
Speaker 2:Australia yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, it was intense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I suppose All right. So yeah, Alvaro, welcome back there was a lot of pooing. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4:But then when you come to you realise that it actually wasn't poo.
Speaker 1:So it was just warm water wow, that's crazy alright oh, is that Ozzy Osbourne?
Speaker 2:yeah no, that's Pescado Rabioso, roger Ginnapen beautiful.
Speaker 4:I love it all right see you later, guys. Bye, bye on that note bye. I see a shadow of me.
Speaker 1:Far away is the sun.
Speaker 3:The shadow says Soft, soft, soft. I want to touch you, the lights of the night.